I had no idea that gardening was such an art! I look forward to reading everyones trial and tribulations as I plan my garden next year! Staying tuned to your answers. My tomatoes were an accident. The seeds were in the compost pile which we used to plant some petunias. We were surprised to see tomato plants along the pool deck. There is nothing to support them, and we didn't know we should, so we let them sprawl.
Some of the main stems are very thick and I'm sure they would break if we tried to stake them now. I have counted over tomatoes random varieties out there and some are well hidden deep under the mess. One actually turned orange under there, and DH somehow got it out. It's now ripe and on the counter. Many others are starting to turn. Make a trellis. Use fence posts on either side and run string or wire mesh between them, then tie up your plants. Or just put a bunch of posts outside the rootball and tie up your plants directly.
Ever bought a foreclosure? Tell us about it! I'm stuck! Please help me finish my patio!! A photo would be a big help in seeing just how bad the situation may be and whether or not it is possible to do something at this stage. In most cases, by this time in the season, you'd do more damage than good by trying to support them so just letting them sprawl on a thick layer of straw mulch works best. But that also depends on your location, season duration, etc. So did you mulch the bed? If so, with what and how much?
If not, can you get some straw or hay and carefully work it in under the plants so the fruit aren't laying on bare ground and rotting?
You will still lose some to rot and have a jungle to work through to pick but most fruit should do ok. Also can you tell us whether they are determinate varieties or indeterminate varieties? Very different situations with both. Yea, dig has pretty much covered it.
Manipulating grown plants often leads to snapped branches and lost production. Look at it as an alternate pruning method! I did not mulch the bed. I already have a jungle to work through! I am located in central New Jersey. The plants in the middle seem to be holding on their own, but it is the ones around the outside of the bed that are falling over. Do you think it would be advisable to put stakes in around the border of the bed and tie them to that to keep the fruit off the ground?
I have both indeterminate and determinate varieties I think? Cherry tomatoes, Beefsteak, and Roma The Roma tomatoes seem to be the ones that are falling over the most. Here is a picture Thank you for your help! Any recommendations for cucumbers? We went to China for three weeks and had someone come water the garden every few days She is NOT a gardener, nor am I, yet.
Left with a completely organized garden and came back to a tangled vine mess of cucumbers as well. Am trying to train them on a trellis now, but am worried the handling will just make it worse. I would buy ft. Stakes, stakes per plant. I would put them into the ground around the plants, the root damage will be minimal.
And then I would carefully tie the stems to the stakes. Some stems might be broken but it is still better than to let them sit on the ground. A couple days later I will prune the lower and inner leaves for ventilation. Alternatively I would tie the stems to the fence which you have on background. Congratulations on your vigorous plants.
It sounds like you're off to a great start gardening. I agree with Dave that your best bet right now is probably to let them droop wherever they want to droop, and just slip straw or even newsprint down underneath to keep them off the soil. Contact with the soil will likely rot the fruit, and contribute to fungal infections of the leaves. Forum: plants. Tomatoes - Stake or let them do their thing? David Chapman. Optional 'thank-you' note:.
I'm curious what the permaculture way of doing tomatoes is? Do you all stake your tomatoes in some way or do you let the vines topple over and go as they please?
Do you prune or do you let them go hog wild? Isaac Hill. You kinda have to stake them so there's enough air flow. Not enough air flow makes blight happen a lot easier.
Paula Edwards. I think something like a cage is better. But my constructions always topples over because of the heavy load. I found permaculture or not - tomatos don't like to be staked but like to be off the ground.
I would be happy if someone showed some awsome tomato cage constructions. John Polk. Carolyn Male, author of " Heirloom Tomatoes Jordan Lowery. I do both, and then some. I prefer to let them go naturally but you have to be on the picking good. Since when the tomatoes have ground to touch the rot faster once ripe. Some go up trellis made of bamboo, that's if a plant volunteers in a crowded area. Last I let them intermingle with other plants and shrubs and trees. Brenda Groth. James Colbert.
I let mine crawl all over the ground. In fertile soil its not hard to get a tomato bush that is 3 feet high covering a 16 sqft area. You do lose some tomatoes but the plant sends down new roots so its is hardier and produces more fruit than normal. When in doubt do both sprawl and cage culture. But keep in mind that an established polyculture will aid your tomatoes health. Josh Jamison. I think a lot of permaculture techniques are bound to fail on highly domesticated plants such as tomatoes.
Adrien Lapointe. I like I would say it depends As far as I know there are two categories of tomatoes: determinate and indeterminate. The determinate are the bush tomatoes and do not really need to have stakes, but it depends on the variety and the growing conditions. The indeterminate ones are the vining tomatoes and apparently can grow up to 10 ft. If you have money and no time, or don't want to make your own tomato supports, visit your local garden store and purchase a few wire stands specifically made for tomato plants.
Sow seed of warm crops if you haven't already, including corn, beans, basil, melons, dukes and both winter and summer squash. Don't forget to put in some seed for annual flowers: Sunflowers, marigolds, calendula, zinnias, cosmos and nasturtiums will all do well now if planted from seed. It is imperative to plant tomatoes, eggplants, peppers from starts, not seeds now, as there is not time left for them to mature in the fall if planted from seed.
Garden stores still have lots of starts on hand. Facebook Twitter Email. No one right way to stake a tomato plant.
Carol Savonen Special to the Statesman Journal. Smart tip about growing tomato without stakes This system actually reproduces how tomatoes naturally grow in the wild. Log in or Join. Meet the community. Need advice? Live from the forum. On the same topic Fermented nettle tea and tomato plants — gear up for great harvests! Who hasn't yet suffered the sting of wild nettle? Far from being a weed, stinging nettle is an excellent ally….
How to stake tomatoes — cages, twine or poles? Most types of tomato plants are vegetables that never stop growing.
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